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Wednesday, November 02, 2005

Sample Ballot

Sample Ballot
Originally uploaded by Sally Ann.

This is a "Sample Ballot" showing candidates to be voted on here in Lindley, Proposition One and Proposition Two.

Proposition One is the "Submission of the Budget to the Legislature by the Governor".

Proposition Two is the NYS Transportation Bond Act of 2005".

Click on headline "Sample Ballot" for an enlarged view.


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3:09 PM  
Anonymous Gerry Gross said...

I would like to comment on Sally's election missive that was mailed out. Lindley has a well written junk law. It could be tweaked in several places but the main problem is and always has been enforcement. As for Route 15, the state has control over that and has listened to many citizens concerns over the years. If the transportation bond issue is passed, maybe we will see the completion of the four lane in our lifetime, if we are lucky. Contrary to Sally's view the present town board does support the highway department. The offices that want to use technology are already using it. The present boards of the town do work together and quite well. When zoning is involved a team approach is mandatory.

Now to another issue. Sally is mad at the Democrats because they endorsed Paul Stermer for Supervisor. Sally thought she had that position all sewed up and is mad as hell that she has opposition. For someone who wants to help the highway department I find it ironic that she is fiercely opposing the one councilman who has worked tirelessly to do just that, help the highway department. Sally has stated that she is afraid she wouldn't be able to control Jake if he is elected. Good. Every councilperson should be able to think for themselves and stand up for the principles they believe in. Jake and Harold have disagreed bitterly over issues and still manage to work for the good of the people. Sally had no problem with the Democrats supporting Dick Johnsone over the years or other Republican candidates. It has been common practice in this town for years. Talk about working together, the parties have.

In closing I can honestly say Jake Gross has only posted a comment on this blog once and he signed his name because that is the way he is. The are people who believe in what Jake has done for the town and stand ready to support him despite party affiliation. Most people can be free enough to vote for the best person for the job. In the Republican mailing they specifically singled Jake out and drew a line to the spot for Mr. Adams. Well folks you can vote in either spot on the ballot, you don't have to follow the party's edict. Think for yourselves and let the record of achievement speak for itself.

6:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

with no damage to your business’ budget whatsoever.

9:42 PM  
Anonymous Sallyann said...

Regarding your comments on the Junk Law: You said the “main problem is and always has been enforcement.” I respectfully disagree. We have a Junk Law and Zoning Laws on the books, but unfortunately over the years these Laws have been enforced haphazardly and at times, unethically. Individuals in town have been targeted and spied on. A Councilman resigned from his position because he was asked to spy on his neighbors for Junk and Code violations. I want this behavior stopped because it is grossly unfair to the citizens of Lindley. The idea that spying on each other and turning each other in for Junk or Code violations could be a “good thing” is beyond me. The mere thought of it makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. I firmly believe that this is the Code Enforcement Officer’s job, his and his alone. My Junk Law Policy would address the town as a whole and stop this foolhardy notion that it’s okay for neighbors to turn in neighbors.

Gerry, I am not mad that the Democrats endorsed Paul Stermer. And why would I be “mad as hell” because I have opposition? Isn’t that what usually happens when you run for office. Someone runs against you. I never thought I had the “position all sewed up”. I can assure you if I did, I wouldn’t have folded, tabbed and hand addressed into the wee hours of the night all those flyers I just sent out. And the fact that Jim Adams is running really turned this election into a horserace. Now the voters in Lindley have real choices.

Regarding: “Sally has stated that she is afraid she wouldn’t be able to control Jake if he is elected.” Where in the heck did you come up with that? You make me sound like I’m Nurse Cratchet from “One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest”. I do not have any intentions of “controlling” anyone seated on the Town Board or any other elected or appointed official in town government. I prefer an administration that “works with people instead of working against them.”

On November 8th, the voters will decide who they most trust to govern their town. I got my issues out to the people. They know exactly where I stand. That’s all it’s ever been about.

10:39 PM  
Anonymous Jim Adams said...

In response to anonymous and others who may want to become more informed about my decision to run for Town Councilman as a “write in” candidate…… let me say this. For the past 20 years I have been a resident of the Town of Lindley. I recently semi-retired from the self-employed contracting business which I have operated for the past 40+ years and now have time to devote to other interests. For all the years I have lived here and traveled the roads of Lindley and met and spoken with residents, I have had concerns just as you may have concerns. While I have tried to address those issues in a low-key manner, I now feel I have the time to “step up to the plate” and become actively involved. In earlier years, while living in other communities, I was involved in Cub Scouting activities for 10 years, as a member of 2 different Fire Departments for a total of 12 years service, and as a certified EMT member in an ambulance corp. I have also been involved in coaching Little League baseball and Cinderella softball in both the Addison and Erwin Valley Painted Post area. For the past 22 years I have been a very active and involved member of the Corning Lions Club having served in many key positions to include Treasurer and President. As a businessman, I have successfully worked with a wide variety of individuals to meet their specific needs. I am appreciative of all those individuals who have given their time and talents to serve our community but feel it’s time for a change in the leadership for the Town of Lindley. If given the opportunity I would simply like to work with our elected town officials and area residents to build a better, safer community in which to live.

11:03 PM  
Anonymous Gerry Gross said...

Sally, you have to be careful who you say what to. You told a very crediable official that you were afraid you wouldn't be able to control jake, period. As for the junk law, again you are mistaken. Enforcement has always been the problem. There certainly has been selective enforcement in some cases and that is unfortunate for those who do follow the law. The town has no control over who the CEO does or does not visit. The CEO cannot do the job sitting at a desk in the town hall and therin lies the problem. Your idea that only the CEO should report violators is taking away the constitutional rights of the people who pay taxes in the town. This is a small town with limited revenue and as a result you have limited funds to pay a CEO and so you ultimately get what you pay for. As for the councilman who resigned, he did so because he would not uphold the oath of office which he signed and that oath is to uphold the laws of the town. There is a lot more I could say about the way the town is run but there is no point. You have your opinion and I have mine.

5:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmm..and people like Mrs. Gross wonder why the townspeople have lost interest over the years in participating and voicing opinion within our town. Wonder why there is such a lack of interest? Why there is constant backstabbing and distrust within our community? She doesnt sound like she has too much faith in the people now in office yet isnt really willing to see the other side of the fence or hope for a change for the better. Its this kind of attitude that has separated our small community. I think its this kind of pettiness and attitude that Sally will confront and stop for the benefit of the town and that may be the reason some are feeling threatend and lashing out. I commend Sally for stepping up along with Jim Adams. They are brave souls and have already proven their concern and dedication for a change just by the fact they are running. Best of luck to you both. Lindley needs you and your optimistic views. The sooner the better!! Lastly, I have not noticed Sally attacking anyone on here. However ,I have seen her defend herself on several issues and quite well, I may add. Lets rememeber she is the one who started this blog in order to have an open communication with the people in town and to keep them more informed about their local government. No one has ever taken the initiative to do so before. Thanks to her we are more informed on issues. Its too bad some like to use the blog for bashing others. That was not the reason it was created.

8:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am speechless!! Obviously Gerry has some unresolved issues.

9:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am speechless!! Obviously Gerry has some unresolved issues.

9:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am speechless!! Obviously Gerry has some unresolved issues.

9:24 AM  
Anonymous Sallyann said...

Here's a tip: When Blogger posts a comment three times and you don't know why....You need to click on your "refresh" button to clear your "cache". When you're on the comment page getting ready to leave a comment, click your refresh button. Actually, if you're on the blog alot, it's good to hit "refresh" ever now and again.

10:08 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's be honest- Jake and Geraldine both have unresolved issues. Imagine what things will be like with him as counilman and her running the planning board.
I like mr. Adams willingness to state his concerns. I will vote for him. what does jake have to say for HIMSELF. I would like to hear it --------not his wife's version.

10:23 AM  
Anonymous Sallyann said...

Gerry: I'll admit your cracks about me not being able to "control Jake" have really got me going because they're so ridiculous. For 12 years now, I've been trying to get Lar to put his slippers on the stair steps and out of the kitchen. I haven't succeeded yet.

10:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i think sal can hold her own with jake.
i don't recall him making much of a splash in the community until he was appointed to the council by his cronies all of a sudden he becomes an expert on the construction of the new town building. coincidence or election year
keep your sense of humor,''ll need it.

12:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gee-ain't politicin fun. You really find out how people feel about you when they talk about you behind your back and smile in your face.

4:51 PM  
Anonymous Marc said...

Wow- There certainly are a lot of opinions and disagreements flying around! But that is the great thing about your blog Sally it lets everyone air there views and at the same time allows others to disagree with those views. And by reading the comments you get a jist of the direction the majority of the town is leaning on particular issues. :) love the blog !!!!

6:23 PM  
Anonymous cj said...

lol- there are folks who don't know th egross' at all. They are nothing like what is being displayed on here and ms gross dos NOT run the planning board, never did. what she has done is attend many hours of training to become knowledgeable about the many laws of the state which are mandated and cause headaches for all small towns. too bad folks assume the worst when they don't know what makes a person tick. as for mr. gross running the town, lol, you folks sure are a dumb bunch. no he did not become an expert overnight he worked construciton for many years and dick needed help pure and simple. put what spin you want on it but you are all dead wrong as usual but then this is an election year. lets keep the click together is what i hear from y'all, the blog click

6:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How come one of the gross family didn't challenge sally for supervisor way i hear it -they didn't want to take a chance of not keeping the job they got.

cj how come you know so much about what the gross family thinks if magross doesn't run the planning board ,she sure does have a lot to say.

6:56 PM  
Anonymous Sallyann said...


You must include yourself in this "blog click". You contribute often. We would miss you if you stopped contributing. Seriously.

8:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CJ- awhile back I asked you if you ever said anything nice about people, you came back with a few smart comments. Now you are calling us a Dumb Bunch. You really need to get the FACTS, straight before you make your statements.

9:24 AM  
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9:33 AM  
Anonymous kathyb said...

Well-see what happens when I miss a few days of blogging - You would think there was an election going on or something!

I, for one, am exhilarated over the flurry of discussion going on before this election. It means that we still have an interest in the function of our government and that is wonderful!

It is sad that the discussion has to include petty stuff but so goes politics. The primary election set the tone of the local voters and we voters will be making a choice on Tuesday. Sally and Jim have done a laudable job of getting their ideas out to all the voters.

The facts will speak for themselves- We (the voters) want real facts and information from the candidates, if they want our votes. Petty mud-slinging tells us nothing positive about a candidate's ideas, it just makes them look petty. We all have a responsibility to vote for the people who will best represent our own ideals and will work to make sure that any changes that must be made, are made in the best interest of us all.

Get out there next Tuesday and let your vote speak for you. Good luck to all the candidates and may the best candidates win!!

11:04 AM  
Anonymous A Voter said...

the only ones who have let us know there ideas are jim and sally. why don't stermer, gross, and the other guy simcoe let us know there ideas

11:21 AM  
Anonymous Jacob Gross said...

For those bloggers who want to know about me, Jake Gross, I will tell you. I have lived in Lindley since 1953. For the past 15 years I have attended most town meetings on a regular basis. I served on the committe for the Master Plan and for the update on zoning.

I would like to see the dirt roads in town rebuilt and widened. I would work with Dick Johnson to help him achieve his plans and goals for the highway department.
I would like to work with a grant writer to help get grants for equipment and roads.

As for my work history, I worked for Goodyear in Corning for 20 years and in construction for 19 years mainly in the home building area. I am proud to be a Democrat and fail to see how party affiliation hinders a person's ability to work for the town's good. I think I have demonstrated my willingness to work for the town.

As for me and my wife running the town, our ideas can be very different at times and we agree to disagree. We definitely don't run the town. I didn't run for supervisor because I feel I can best serve the town as a board member. I did not want to be unable to pursue my own interest and as supervisor you are on call 24/7. I want a personal life apart from the town. I would appreciate your vote on Tuesday, November 8. If you have any questions you can call me.

Jacob Gross

9:36 AM  
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10:34 AM  
Anonymous A Voter said...

okay- to be fair let's hear a word from mr.simcoe.

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Anonymous dirt roader said...

town's roads are not that bad except in trouble spots where hours are spent repairing them.
the speeders don't seem to have any problems with the town roads .
speed limits need to be addressed as should the shoulder erosions, dust control,and the pot holes. although the pot holes do tend to slow the speeders down.
dust control needs to be started earlier in the year before it becomes bad. slowing drivers down would help.
most town roads are wide enough at present for 2 cars to pass safely not like in grandma's day when you had to find a spot to pass. so why spend time,money widening them .it will just cause more maintenance problems.

12:10 PM  
Anonymous Sallyann said...

How many feel "speed" is a real problem on county and Lindley roads?

12:50 PM  
Anonymous Marc said...

Speeding is a problem in our town .The majority of accidents on town roads are caused from excessive speed.Speed is a problem in posted work areas.I know additional patrols have been requested for town roads but the sheriff's dept is spread very thin as well.I think it is a sign of the times always in a hurry to get where ever your going regardless if you have to be on time or not.Whenever a road condition is improved it automaticly follows that the increased number of speeders are soon to follow.Some of the speeders reside on the town roads but the largest number are folks just short cutting trying to either cut down on the delays of road construction or merely trying to cut off a few miles to their destination.Town road speed is a good topic .But soulutions wont be found easily!

1:18 PM  
Anonymous Teresa said...

I think speed is a big problem on our town roads and county roads too. The posted speed limit is 45mph on the dirt roads in Lindley, it was not determined by the town but by the state. I myself would never go 45 on these dirt roads, you would not have a car left! The main reason I chose to live out here is that it was a dirt road with little traffic and slower traffic, being safer for the children who live and play all along these dirt roads. I have threatened to dig big trenches in the road in front of my house but was told I would be in BIG trouble! I think most people who live on these roads would agree speeding is a big issue.

1:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A big complaint heard is the oil for the dust isn't put down until late summer-then come fall, the crew comes along and works the road and disturbs all the oil covering. why can't they just concentrate on the trouble spots and potholes and leave the rest alone. Before so much machinery was needed, a lot was done by pick and shovel and roads seemed to be better shape.But maybe that was before every kid had a car and had to see how fast it would go.

2:40 PM  
Anonymous Sallyann said...

Not only do parents have two cars, myself included, but their kids usually have cars also. Thirty years ago, traffic just wasn't a problem on Lindley roads. Case in point: When we were kids we used to sled down Church Creek Road in the winter, and in the summer we used to build these rickety "go carts" and test drive them down Church. We never even needed a "spotter" at the end of the road to signal if a car was coming. If some kid tried that now, they wouldn't last five minutes.

Let me ask this: If speeding is a problem, then what is the solution?

3:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Show respect for your neighbors so they don't have to eat your dust, lower speed limits and more daylight patrols.

5:03 PM  
Anonymous Marc said...

Anonymous- The roads are oiled every year as soon as possible.Delays to take into consideration are Road repairs from winter melt off, Sink holes,Rain ,Equipment break downs,Late frost, We are controlled by mother nature. And the need to get enough roads worked to make it feasable to order a oil truck. Also the availability of a oil truck is often an issue.The roads have to be worked before they can be oiled.As for why the crew works roads in the fall. Pot holes need to be removed before the snow comes so everyone doesnt have to beat their vehicles all winter long.Even if it means reworking oiled areas .Not only pot holes are a concern. Spots that have been affected by rain that are not much of a problem now become one when the road is covered with snow or ice. If there isnt a problem in a oiled area we wont grade up the oil.:) geez a pick and shovel!

5:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

that's part of the problem-everything has to be done from the seat of machinery. what's wrong with a little physical labor. noone looked undernourished in the ground breaking or ribbon cutting ceremony pictures.

7:08 PM  
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8:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Id say that last comment was VERY uncalled for. You gripe that it takes forever to get the roads fixed with good dependable equipment and in the same sentence say "whats wrong with a little physical labor" And remark on how "everthing has to be done from the seat of machinery" OK, first of all...incase you are unable to notice, the equipment saves man hours and is absolutley necessary everyday the town works someplace. Imagine the comp cases the Town would have with just manual labor. Years ago they also had chain gangs (from prison camps) that would help dig ditches and save the town money with that, but you would be the type that would feel threatened by that and ask they be hauled away. Its the turn of the century. Technology and development are more important now than ever. Its people like you that can never be satisfied and need to move back to town to your paved roads and skinny guys with shorts up their butt running along side the road. Our men work in the country...they work hard and they are happy with themselves. Your just lucky they continue to work for you, regardless. If I worked for the town Id want to leave you snowed in till last! And, When I finally got through shoveling your road you'de take off in a big hurry, Im sure, and wreck. Then you'de gripe cause the sander wasnt out. So sit back...enjoy your comforts of home during the bad weather and back off the crew!
They're a good bunch and they work hard. Your comment was way out of line!

8:35 PM  
Anonymous Marc said...

Anonymous- :) You are right i am not undernourished and i thank my wifes cooking for that!As for the manual labor you should have been out with the crew the last 3 hours clearing trees from roadways .lol dont matter how we try still have to run the chainsaws from a standing position! But we do try to do as much as we can with hydraulics .It is much faster.

9:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anonymous remark was totally out of line. Everybodys an expert.

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Anonymous Kitty -Historian said...

In the "Old Days", it was a common practice to hold election day dinners. A few churches and places still do.
From a copy of a circa 1840 newspaper "DOMESTIC ECONOMY" from the Cooperstown,NY museum printing press.

An old fahioned election cake is made of:
4 pounds of butter
3/4 pounds of butter
4 eggs
1 pound of sugar
1 pint of good yeast
Wet it with milk as soft as it can be and be moulded on a board.

(Doesn't say what to do after that!!!)

I like the quote at the top of the page.

"The true Economy of Housekeeping is simply the art of gathering up all the fragments so nothing is lost. Fragments of time as well as materials." Mrs. Childs circa 1840.

A copy of the print out can be seen on the bulletin board at the Lindley Town Hall.

Be sure to check out the collection of photos,too,when you come to vote on the propositions and for your favorite candidate tomorrow Nov. 8th.

Have a good day

8:26 AM  
Anonymous Kitty -Historian said...

I goofed first ingredient of the cake should have been 4 pounds of flour.
Doesn't it make you curious as to taste? Probably nothing like our box cakes,today.

8:32 AM  
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